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Post by Jetzt on May 21, 2005 13:31:05 GMT
Anakin his the chosen one. I think hes stronger in the Force and all but doesn't know how to use it since hes not wise... He has the ability to become the strongest in the force... but he took the easy path and joined the darkside, thus he will never reach his full potential.
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Post by Adena on May 21, 2005 14:21:40 GMT
But ironically he DID restore balance to the force....leaving only two sith, and two Jedi..So in a way the prophicy WAS right but it was grossly differant from what the Jedi Assumed it ment
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Post by lightbringer on May 21, 2005 17:57:58 GMT
Guys one that doesnt match is the fact that Dooku was more powerful than Obi Wan and smacked his ass up like a b!tch...then Anakin owns his ass like nothing. Anakin is more powerful in the force as well as LS combat. Look how fast he owned Dooku! Also when they both force push eachother Anakin's force push seemed stronger since he recovered much faster and didn't land as hard.
I am getting ready to go see it for the forth time...in a few hours.
Also Vader is still hella powerful. He has a serious weakness and the Emperor loves it...lightning will kill him quickly. Other than that he could crush the life from palp in a second imo after seeing the movie.
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Post by Jetzt on May 21, 2005 18:37:53 GMT
What film were you watching? You base your opinions on one duel? If that is the case then we could say, Asajj Ventress is better than Anakin because she was better in their duel... Anakin still killed her. Same goes for Darth Maul. Dooku had the upperhand when he was dueling both Anakin and Obi-Wan together. Just because Anakin put together a few good combos and got the upper hand does not mean he OWNED Dooku.
Again, look above. We have not seen Anakin's true force potential. Infact we havent seen any of it. If I looked at it from your point of view, I could say that Obi-Wan is the most powerful force user EVER because he dropped some roof on top of 5 Magnadroids. Its just not fact.
Dont be stupid.
I would love to see that... maybe you didnt watch how fast Palpatine moved against Mace and Yoda? Maybe you didnt see how slow that suit made Vader? Palpatine could destroy Vader, force lightning or not.
Now... unsuited Vader is a different matter.
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Post by lightbringer on May 21, 2005 19:30:11 GMT
Jeztz ya gota read some books dude! Anakin dropped entire roof of a dome down upon an army of super batle droids in LoE. Dooku could not believe he was that powerful he refused to believe it. He decided that the ricocheting blaster fire brought it down, but it was Anakin that did it with but a yell at Dooku I WILL KILL YOU DOOKU I SWEAR! the roof trembled and fell through. Also Anakin has saved Obi-wan's life around 50 times already.
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Post by Adena on May 21, 2005 19:59:39 GMT
awh yes.........Finally the star wars world has found it's own version of the "kirk, or Piccard" debate, tis a great day
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Post by Jetzt on May 21, 2005 20:29:39 GMT
Jeztz ya gota read some books dude! Anakin dropped entire roof of a dome down upon an army of super batle droids in LoE. Dooku could not believe he was that powerful he refused to believe it. He decided that the ricocheting blaster fire brought it down, but it was Anakin that did it with but a yell at Dooku I WILL KILL YOU DOOKU I SWEAR! the roof trembled and fell through. Also Anakin has saved Obi-wan's life around 50 times already. ...but basing it on the EU isnt a good way to do it. I doubt Mace could have jumped on a fighter and flown around Coruscant. 50 times? I thought you have seen the film 4 times now? "Uhh, 9 times... that time on Cato Nemoidia doesnt count" - Obi-Wan and even that was a joke between 2 friends...
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Post by lightbringer on May 22, 2005 0:56:29 GMT
...but basing it on the EU isnt a good way to do it. I doubt Mace could have jumped on a fighter and flown around Coruscant. 50 times? I thought you have seen the film 4 times now? "Uhh, 9 times... that time on Cato Nemoidia doesnt count" - Obi-Wan and even that was a joke between 2 friends... Yer basing it on EU also? Or only when it aids you? When did Asejj Ventress beat Anakin anyway? I saw Anakin kill her. EU is sactioned SWs by LA. If we dont go by EU then 90% of the stuff we go by cant be used. Lucas changed it to make Obi-Wan appear stronger than he had in the novels. He seems to change a lot of things around. Like Obi-Wan had no clue that there were twins? Kinda weird since he watched Leia being born. In LoE which is a liscensed prequel novel it cleary states that Anakin had saved his life about 50 times and constantly rubbed it in. Well he saved Obi's life atleast 3 times in that novel alone.
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Post by darthheritious on May 22, 2005 2:21:11 GMT
And if Sidious face was melted as you claim why wasnt his hair melted? Why wasnt his eyes burned out. Tha theorey is full of holes...huge ones at that. First off you are entitled to your opinion just as i am to mine. Since it wasnt thoroughly explained in the movie it is subject to debate whether he used a "force mask" or his face was melted. In the scene where he declared himself Emperor he said "I was disfigured by the attack on my life". And secondly........WHO CARES, ITS ONLY A MOVIE!
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Post by lightbringer on May 22, 2005 2:29:29 GMT
First off you are entitled to your opinion just as i am to mine. Since it wasnt thoroughly explained in the movie it is subject to debate whether he used a "force mask" or his face was melted. In the scene where he declared himself Emperor he said "I was disfigured by the attack on my life". And secondly........WHO CARES, ITS ONLY A MOVIE! I agree Hawken. Sorry for coming off so harshly.
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Post by darthheritious on May 22, 2005 2:46:39 GMT
Uh, id like to point something out about Vader's lack of "flexibility" in the suit........The OT was filmed in the late 70's and early 80's and stunts were very limited back then! Had the OT been filmed even in the last five years you would have seen a CG Vader who would be flying around and bouncing off shit just like CG Yoda.
Oh and one other thing.......If Vader's power was diminished by his Cyborg parts then why was he able to Force Choke the Commander of the Death Star with his right (Cyborg) arm? Go back and watch that scene from the Original movie and think about it!
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Post by lightbringer on May 22, 2005 2:48:37 GMT
I have a feeling that Vader was still sick powerful...able to force choke someone that wasnt even around him.
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Post by Renthous Vacvar on May 22, 2005 2:51:57 GMT
Oh and one other thing.......If Vader's power was diminished by his Cyborg parts then why was he able to Force Choke the Commander of the Death Star with his right (Cyborg) arm? Go back and watch that scene from the Original movie and think about it! just to let you know, the arm is not a conduit of the force unless it's force lightening. The arm in this case was a mental helper to help him aim the attack, which he did not need. This was all said by George Lucas in Star Wars Insider.
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Post by darthheritious on May 22, 2005 2:56:51 GMT
just to let you know, the arm is not a conduit of the force unless it's force lightening. The arm in this case was a mental helper to help him aim the attack, which he did not need. This was all said by George Lucas in Star Wars Insider. The point i was eluding to was that Vader (with or without the suit) was the Most powerful Jedi and/or Sith ever.......Even Sidious said it in the movie to Yoda......"Soon Lord Vader will be more powerful then either one of us......."
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Post by The Prophet on May 22, 2005 2:57:35 GMT
... im not even going to comment. but so you know, i believe jetzt.
this is as obvious as the "If i cut your arm off with a lightsaber will it bleed?" thing from a few months ago.
all i will say is, USE YOUR HEADS PEOPLE, YOU HAVE BRAINS FOR A REASON.
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