Capitial Punishment

[Brandon Rhea]

You know what, don't bother finding the BBC Report. There's a good chance there will be something in there I won't believe anyway, so don't waste your time.

The truth is in the middle. Maybe someday an important official from London or Washington will come out with the truth. Until then, we're just going to have to agree to disagree because this topic is going offtopic anway.....

[Brandon Rhea]

sevordo said:

Bollocks it is...It is compelte un-biased..it has never said a word against america and I watch the 10 o-clock news everyday plus....war is a hectic thing...your telling me reports are always right..things arn't missed or counted twice?

Every media center in the world is biassed. What makes BBC so biassed. I mean, for fucks sake even CNN and FOX are biassed against our own damn country. BBC is biassed too, all media centers are. That's just a fact of life.

But, I have to go now anyway. We can argue this later

[Halan]

Oki doki!

[Scarface]

I believe we do need it but I also believe all killing is wrong.

However there are extenuating circumstances jails are over populated I mean there shouldn't have to be such as politically correct system were there is a jail every 50 miles, the ones that are there for life have nothing to lose anyways, the psychos could care less what happens to them.

There are to many things that they can do there its unbelievable its easier now for a con/ex con to get a job than the hard working workers.

I believe they should serve their time with no privileges.

I also believe that child molesters should have a 25 year minimum for their crimes, all the recent kidnapings have been from men who was in prison for 5 years or so for molesting a child, the whole system is messed up.

[Halan]

Dude you basically say the lyrics to every rage against the machine song whenever you talk..its funny because your not even doing it on purpose.

[Brandon Rhea]

spike said:

I believe we do need it but I also believe all killing is wrong.

However there are extenuating circumstances jails are over populated I mean there shouldn't have to be such as politically correct system were there is a jail every 50 miles, the ones that are there for life have nothing to lose anyways, the psychos could care less what happens to them.

There are to many things that they can do there its unbelievable its easier now for a con/ex con to get a job than the hard working workers.

I believe they should serve their time with no privileges.

I also believe that child molesters should have a 25 year minimum for their crimes, all the recent kidnapings have been from a man who was in prison for 5 years or so for molesting a child, the whole system is messed up.

Child molesters should have life in prision, in my opinion. Here's the thing: a lot of murderers will get out of jail and then get on with their lives. But, it's proven that child molesters usually try to do it again. A lot do, some even just a few days after they get out of jail. It's been proven that they are molesters becase they indeed were molested as a child. Therefor, it is an acquired trait that you cannot get rid of. It's better just to lock them up forever in seclusion, because if they're with everyone else they will get the shit beaten out of them or worse. Child molesters are the lowest of the low. Even the low hates them.

sevordo said:

Dude you basically say the lyrics to every rage against the machine song whenever you talk..its funny because your not even doing it on purpose.

I just noticed that too

[Kentos Fey’lya / Adamis]

saberdart said:

Honestly, I say yes, I am pro execution for those who deserve it. Call me old fashioned but Hammarabi had a point when he said an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth. It only makes since to me to have punishment be double the extream of the crime to add emphasis to the reprecusions.

So sharpen the axe and get the bucket ready cuse heads are gonna roll. ;D

There are a few things fwrong with an eye for an eye. If you went on that simple policy then people who kill by accident or to defend themselves/country should also be killed. Also how would you then get justice for murderers who killed 2 or 3 or more people. With eye for an eye you only get justice for the first one and every extra one is a 'freebe' for the murderer.

[Kentos Fey’lya / Adamis]

sevordo said:

Bollocks it is...It is compelte un-biased..it has never said a word against america and I watch the 10 o-clock news everyday plus....war is a hectic thing...your telling me reports are always right..things arn't missed or counted twice?

Ok guys back on topic here please. This is about Capitial Punishment NOT war deaths. They are two different kinds of Government sanctioned murder, and as such need two seperate threads.

[Master Bondora]

jedimasterbac said:

darthsin2 said:

Bush also deserve to die because he is responsible or the death of 100,000 Iraquis.

In times of war there are always civilian casualties. By that statement George Washington, Abrahamn Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson, FDR, Harry Truman, Jack Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George H.W.Bush and Bill Clinton all deserved to die as well. There have been civilian casualties under their watch.

Not really. The war in Iraq is pointless and woefully unjustified.

[Arthas Vorenus]

Not really. It gives the US more influence and Iraq will become civilized. The people there now have rights and will one day become a economic power house like Germany, Japan, South Korea, extra because the US steped in.

[Arthas Vorenus]

jediadamis said:

sevordo said:

Bollocks it is...It is compelte un-biased..it has never said a word against america and I watch the 10 o-clock news everyday plus....war is a hectic thing...your telling me reports are always right..things arn't missed or counted twice?

Ok guys back on topic here please. This is about Capitial Punishment NOT war deaths. They are two different kinds of Government sanctioned murder, and as such need two seperate threads.

If my mother got killed from a killer I would what him dead and that is the biggest reason why I say we need it.

[Brandon Rhea]

darthsin2 said:

jedimasterbac said:

In times of war there are always civilian casualties. By that statement George Washington, Abrahamn Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson, FDR, Harry Truman, Jack Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George H.W.Bush and Bill Clinton all deserved to die as well. There have been civilian casualties under their watch.

Not really. The war in Iraq is pointless and woefully unjustified.

And Vietnam wasn't pointless? And all the little week long wars that Bill Clinton got us in to where he then didn't know what to tell the troops to do weren't pointless?

[Arthas Vorenus]

jedimasterbac said:

darthsin2 said:

Not really. The war in Iraq is pointless and woefully unjustified.

And Vietnam wasn't pointless? And all the little week long wars that Bill Clinton got us in to where he then didn't know what to tell the troops to do weren't pointless?

He did help destroy General Arkine regime and stop help stop the genocide up in Bonsai(One of the Balkan countries)Vietnam wasn't pointless how it was fought yes that was pointless.The UN should had done more of the leg work but that just my opinion and Kinna Min should had been killed for his crimes against humanity.He was the bucther not the americans.

[Brandon Rhea]

arthas said:

jedimasterbac said:

And Vietnam wasn't pointless? And all the little week long wars that Bill Clinton got us in to where he then didn't know what to tell the troops to do weren't pointless?

He did help destroy General Arkine regime and stop help stop the genocide up in Bonsai(One of the Balkan countries)Vietnam wasn't pointless how it was fought yes that was pointless.The UN should had done more of the leg work but that just my opinion and Kinna Min should had been killed for his crimes against humanity.He was the bucther not the americans.

Okay, I'm going to replace a few words in that sentence to make my point:

Iraq wasn't pointless. How it was fought, yes, that was pointless. The UN should had done more of the leg work but that just my opinion and Saddam Hussein should be killed for his crimes against humanity. He was the bucther not the Americans.

[Arthas Vorenus]

I think it was America fault with the middle east in general.During the invasion of Afghanistan we left behind weapons.During the Iraq and Iran war we supply both sides weapons.During the cold war we supply Saudi Arabia with weapons.During 1960's we supply newly made Israel with weapons.Sensing a patterns of hated?These countries are given powerful weapons like tanks guns planes missiles and these are people who been killing each other for the past 5,000 years.Not the brightest idea.Its not Bush fault its the US government who should take the blame but we both know that won't happen.The president himself has no real power but he is just a figure head that everyone blames it on.The real evil doers are the senators who control the president.