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Post by Master Bondora on Oct 31, 2005 23:47:55 GMT
I say yes. Let me try to make crystal clear what is established beyond reasonable doubt, and what needs further study, about evolution. Evolution as a process that has always gone on in the history of the earth can be doubted only by those who are ignorant of the evidence or are resistant to evidence, owing to emotional blocks or to plain bigotry. By contrast, the mechanisms that bring evolution about certainly need study and clarification. There are no alternatives to evolution as history that can withstand critical examination. Yet we are constantly learning new and important facts about evolutionary mechanisms.
and remember people, Nothing in Biology makes sense except in the light of evolution...
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Post by Kentos Fey’lya / Adamis on Oct 31, 2005 23:55:52 GMT
I say yes. Let me try to make crystal clear what is established beyond reasonable doubt, and what needs further study, about evolution. Evolution as a process that has always gone on in the history of the earth can be doubted only by those who are ignorant of the evidence or are resistant to evidence, owing to emotional blocks or to plain bigotry. By contrast, the mechanisms that bring evolution about certainly need study and clarification. There are no alternatives to evolution as history that can withstand critical examination. Yet we are constantly learning new and important facts about evolutionary mechanisms. and remember people, Nothing in Biology makes sense except in the light of evolution... Agree with you mostly but with that last statement you will be opening up a can of worms that you probably don't want to get into but still. Anyway I said Yes obivously and if you want to know why, just ask.
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Post by Jedi Master Kael Caivera on Oct 31, 2005 23:58:39 GMT
[glow=blue,2,300]ADMIN OOC: Look, nothing has happened but PLEASE FOR GOODNESS SAKES no arguing in here or this will be locked.[/glow]
As for me, I look at things in a hybrid sense in terms of everything. I believe in Evolution yet I also believe that there is something greater out there that spurred evolution on. So i believe in both. (And no im not taking the easy way out its what i believe in.)
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Post by Lady Zahra/Jules on Nov 1, 2005 0:01:43 GMT
The thread is open again so people can post their view CALMLY. No arguing or name calling or it is locked. Is everyone clear on that point?
{Man, I feel like a mother.....grrr@ you guys...lol}
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Post by Rethius Cettle on Nov 1, 2005 0:01:54 GMT
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Jetzt
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Post by Jetzt on Nov 1, 2005 0:04:56 GMT
To be honest, you cant really deny that evolution has taken place over the past few million years. people are evolving everyday, all you need is a mutated sperm cell and you have some freaky looking dudes.
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Post by Kentos Fey’lya / Adamis on Nov 1, 2005 0:08:38 GMT
To be honest, you cant really deny that evolution has taken place over the past few million years. people are evolving everyday, all you need is a mutated sperm cell and you have some freaky looking dudes. Not always freaky looking but yeah pretty much. It could be that that mutation gives the guys above average, speed, strength or intelligence, not just a fu<ked up physical problem.
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Post by Lady Zahra/Jules on Nov 1, 2005 0:18:00 GMT
In that sense though, it isn't the same. A mutated sperm is not evolution. Evolution occurs because there was a need to change. Mutations in allels will result because of misinterpretation of the genetic code be it by environmental or biological means.
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Post by bruno on Nov 1, 2005 0:24:19 GMT
I believe in competition and the fittest will survive but I am not 100% sure about evolution.
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Post by Lady Zahra/Jules on Nov 1, 2005 0:31:54 GMT
The complete definition of Evolution. Make sure you understand what it is before you make some statements. ev·o·lu·tion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (v-lshn, v-) n. 1. A gradual process in which something changes into a different and usually more complex or better form. See Synonyms at development. 2. a. The process of developing. b. Gradual development. 3. Biology. a. Change in the genetic composition of a population during successive generations, as a result of natural selection acting on the genetic variation among individuals, and resulting in the development of new species. b. The historical development of a related group of organisms; phylogeny. 4. A movement that is part of a set of ordered movements.
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Post by bruno on Nov 1, 2005 0:33:43 GMT
I was talking about society and business.
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Devlen Del-Arshu
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Post by Devlen Del-Arshu on Nov 1, 2005 0:35:12 GMT
Does anyone else here think humans screwed up their personel evolution by discovering fire?
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Post by Jedi Master Kael Caivera on Nov 1, 2005 0:35:38 GMT
Jetzt what you are talking about is just a random mutation.
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Post by bruno on Nov 1, 2005 0:36:00 GMT
What do you mean?
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Post by Kentos Fey’lya / Adamis on Nov 1, 2005 0:36:01 GMT
In that sense though, it isn't the same. A mutated sperm is not evolution. Evolution occurs because there was a need to change. Mutations in allels will result because of misinterpretation of the genetic code be it by environmental or biological means. I'm not sure if you completely understand evolution Kelly. You are right that mutations are random and that if they offer no sudden advantage then they are usually pretty meaningless but if they give the organism an advantage over others of its species because of a climate change or whatnot then it will be more likely to survive to maturity and therefore more likely to breed and pass on this mutation to the next generation in a larger proportion. Over time the large majority of the population will gain this 'mutation' and it will be normal, not a mutation.
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