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Post by Lady Zahra/Jules on Nov 24, 2005 5:18:02 GMT
Ok. Currently in America several illegal immigrants make the trek to our soil to have their children and ensure a better life for them as well as obtain government assistance, insurance, etc for themselves. It's starting to become a problem and the Congress is discussing possibly changing the Citizenship by birth laws. Once a child of an illegal immigrant (or any child for that matter) is born upon US soil, that child becomes an American citizen. Because of that very reason, the government must provide for that child and his/her mother (if not the whole family).
I'm interested to hear the opinions on others in this matter. ;D
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Post by Adena on Nov 24, 2005 5:34:12 GMT
nope, utterly against anchore babies, don't matter.
you know how many times in NM I have been severly injured, but put on a wait list because of a slew of DWI's with illegal alians, or when they flew the UNM hospitay helecopter 3 hours into SOUTHERN mexico to pick up a alians wife, because he was in a dwi incodent and broke his arm,, and I had higher taxes,, or how many times in my youth I did not get a job because I did not speak spanish,, in AMERICA.. sence when is NEW Mexico..Mexico
May not be too bad in some states, but those of the Americans in Cali, Arazona, NM, and Texas can really tell you how there is so many loop holes for alians, and how shitty it is for anyone who is a citizin, or naturalised
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Post by Brandon Rhea on Nov 24, 2005 14:58:17 GMT
I don't think it should be completely reversed, just put more restrictions on it. The illegal immigrants are taking advantage of this and I feel that it should not be allowed to the extent that it is. I think that if you come here to give birth to your child in the United States then you should be forced to...
a) Get a green card b) Get a job c) After a certain amount of time, GET YOUR CITIZENSHIP
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Post by Jedi Knight Slade Shadowhawk on Nov 24, 2005 15:05:51 GMT
Definitely change the laws to keep that kind of stuff from happening. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a racist...I just don't like people who come here illegally.
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Post by .:.::MEGA::.:. on Nov 24, 2005 17:02:53 GMT
Well the human rights acts state that:
Article 13 (1) Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.
(2) Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.
Article 14 (1) Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.
However i think the UK should be more like Australia and ship them off when they come in - only keep immigrants if they are actually of use to the country. Many migrants in the UK have no job and just claim benefits from the government - which is shite as other people are out at work making their living. And then you have that Abdul Hamza (spelling) guy who preaches in the streets about how much he hates the country and government etc. I that is so why does he and all his friends bugger off back to their own country. So i think there should be some sort of limit - not saying completly ban them - just put a limit and try to spread out between other countries
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Post by Jedi Master Arlon Kyjar on Nov 24, 2005 17:05:56 GMT
Dont care.
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Post by Halan on Nov 24, 2005 17:30:07 GMT
Agree with mega and don't really care what ze americans do.
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Post by Kentos Fey’lya / Adamis on Nov 24, 2005 21:02:20 GMT
We have the same problem here in NZ. People, mainly from Asia countries, fly down and pay to use NZ birthing suites in hospitals and so get citizenship for their child and at the same time use up the birthing suites so that at times the actual NZers who have paid taxes to pay for the hospital can't get to use them!
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Post by Rayken/Hk-62 on Nov 25, 2005 15:07:37 GMT
They should definantly change it here
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Post by Jayden Vel Dar/Garl Shillar on Nov 26, 2005 1:49:23 GMT
Dude you don't hae to explain shit. Its an american problem not a white racsit probalem. Thed minute you stand up for yourself and your white in america your automatically rascist. Its bullshit. Next time don't say your not a rascist just say. Its a problem that needs to be stopped. Thats what i say.
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Post by Halan on Nov 26, 2005 10:31:03 GMT
And you say it in such a great way....
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Post by Bralor on Nov 26, 2005 16:59:52 GMT
I'm not in America but yes, it effects Canada too, we get a lot of illegal immigrants sometimes for health care and such.. But I don't think we should stop them from coming but to keep them in control and all.
We get so much that Toronto is divided into sections of races. Probably a lot of cities are like that but it's bad for Toronto
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Post by Halan on Nov 26, 2005 17:02:17 GMT
Yeah...London is and so is birmingham..
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Post by Lady Zahra/Jules on Nov 26, 2005 20:57:31 GMT
Birmingham! ACK! How many names did we steal from the British? I live in Bristol...lol.
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Post by Halan on Nov 26, 2005 20:59:16 GMT
Yeah..my uncle lives in bristol
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