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Post by Lady Zahra/Jules on Oct 31, 2005 23:46:47 GMT
Still, you can post your info in another thread. Keep this one on topic and remember that if someone loses their temper and it turns into an arguing thread, it will be locked. People can't debate things here calmly....we've seen this time and time again.
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Post by Devlen Del-Arshu on Oct 31, 2005 23:47:30 GMT
Meh, with me you got your gods, your angels and your spirit guides, and then your own spirit. Anything other than that...not sure.
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Post by Master Bondora on Oct 31, 2005 23:49:26 GMT
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Post by Kentos Fey’lya / Adamis on Oct 31, 2005 23:49:58 GMT
[glow=red,2,300]Since when was this topic about evolution? Get back on topic.  [/glow] This is a poll to see where you lie on religious issues not to convert others. It's a atheist belief so you got to have it when talking about religion for all religions to be equals. It would be the same if someone talk about christ or the devil. To me religon is like color of one skin. It just divide us. Hey! Leave my brother out of this. |
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Post by bruno on Oct 31, 2005 23:50:55 GMT
Still, you can post your info in another thread. Keep this one on topic and remember that if someone loses their temper and it turns into an arguing thread, it will be locked. People can't debate things here calmly....we've seen this time and time again. Religon will always be debated always has always will. Their are just using facts to say why they belive in what they do. Its a step up from killing each other. ;D |
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Post by Rethius Cettle on Oct 31, 2005 23:52:08 GMT
I agree that we should not turn this into a disscusion, rather just a way of saying who you are.
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Post by Kentos Fey’lya / Adamis on Oct 31, 2005 23:53:39 GMT
Still, you can post your info in another thread. Keep this one on topic and remember that if someone loses their temper and it turns into an arguing thread, it will be locked. People can't debate things here calmly....we've seen this time and time again. Religon will always be debated always has always will. Their are just using facts to say why they belive in what they do. Its a step up from killing each other. ;D That and its real fun to piss off Miles.  ;D  |
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Post by Sage Trilgus/Ayame Trilgus on Oct 31, 2005 23:54:18 GMT
Im a Christian my Grandpa was a preacher and my great grandpa was a preacher
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Post by Adena on Oct 31, 2005 23:54:34 GMT
there is a fact of evolution that happen that we see every day, the fact a bacterea or a virus can utterly alter itself in the course of a few generations proves that, on larger, more complex animals it takes longer, but again can take place in a few generations
I point to Island life, Take a large mammle, say a mamoth, or an elephant..place it on a small island, within a few generations the animal will evolve to become smaller, dwarfed,, this will be better for it, it means it would not need to consume as much food in a area where there is a limited supply... other animals have also made changes, as humans ourselves there is proof of an evolution, just by looking at our orgins,, there are some, like the pankreous that have no function anymore, and are slowly becoming less needed as the generations pass, sertian parts of the brain are larger in humans than they were 2000 years ago
these all prove a point of evolution, a development, and yes I too am very knowledged in this area, infact this is anthropology at its core, the development of man..
Evolution simply means a physical change to be better suited to survive in a givin situation,, Apes that are still apes obviously have not changed much in MODERN human time simply because they have little reason to, they are best suited for survival.
Just because something does not happen over night right infront of our eyes does not mean it does not happen,, and thats the most annoying thing about the stupidity, and nievity of humans
If you have to go by judaisum, the old testimates state that the world was created and destroyed thousands of times before this current age
Could perhaps people not be so sheltered and think... perhaps god was playing with ideas before he settled on this one?
but then again... humans are the the youngest of the homined family,, other species that died thousands and thousands of years ago lived longer than we have..
our genetic parent, gantoris had a short life, living only 40,000 years....yet humans are only 25,000
SO as I said,, perhaps god is still perfecting things,, and the ability to evolve is a creation of a god to better help us survive... he would have that power.. saying he could not limits his ability and if hes so powerful, then how could you ever say it CAN'T
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Post by Rethius Cettle on Oct 31, 2005 23:56:35 GMT
there is a fact of evolution that happen that we see every day, the fact a bacterea or a virus can utterly alter itself in the course of a few generations proves that, on larger, more complex animals it takes longer, but again can take place in a few generations I point to Island life, Take a large mammle, say a mamoth, or an elephant..place it on a small island, within a few generations the animal will evolve to become smaller, dwarfed,, this will be better for it, it means it would not need to consume as much food in a area where there is a limited supply... other animals have also made changes, as humans ourselves there is proof of an evolution, just by looking at our orgins,, there are some, like the pankreous that have no function anymore, and are slowly becoming less needed as the generations pass, sertian parts of the brain are larger in humans than they were 2000 years ago these all prove a point of evolution, a development, and yes I too am very knowledged in this area, infact this is anthropology at its core, the development of man.. Evolution simply means a physical change to be better suited to survive in a givin situation,, Apes that are still apes obviously have not changed much in MODERN human time simply because they have little reason to, they are best suited for survival. Just because something does not happen over night right infront of our eyes does not mean it does not happen,, and thats the most annoying thing about the stupidity, and nievity of humans If you have to go by judaisum, the old testimates state that the world was created and destroyed thousands of times before this current age Could perhaps people not be so sheltered and think... perhaps god was playing with ideas before he settled on this one? but then again... humans are the the youngest of the homined family,, other species that died thousands and thousands of years ago lived longer than we have.. our genetic parent, gantoris had a short life, living only 40,000 years....yet humans are only 25,000 SO as I said,, perhaps god is still perfecting things,, and the ability to evolve is a creation of a god to better help us survive... he would have that power.. saying he could not limits his ability and if hes so powerful, then how could you ever say it CAN'T Valid, however I feel you, and many others. Have evolution confused with adaptation. However, the other stuff you mentioned I can prove with offical science that the truth of the matter is dogs have always been dogs, as man has always been man. If you wish I can show you the link.  |
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Post by Kentos Fey’lya / Adamis on Nov 1, 2005 0:02:49 GMT
there is a fact of evolution that happen that we see every day, the fact a bacterea or a virus can utterly alter itself in the course of a few generations proves that, on larger, more complex animals it takes longer, but again can take place in a few generations I point to Island life, Take a large mammle, say a mamoth, or an elephant..place it on a small island, within a few generations the animal will evolve to become smaller, dwarfed,, this will be better for it, it means it would not need to consume as much food in a area where there is a limited supply... other animals have also made changes, as humans ourselves there is proof of an evolution, just by looking at our orgins,, there are some, like the pankreous that have no function anymore, and are slowly becoming less needed as the generations pass, sertian parts of the brain are larger in humans than they were 2000 years ago these all prove a point of evolution, a development, and yes I too am very knowledged in this area, infact this is anthropology at its core, the development of man.. Evolution simply means a physical change to be better suited to survive in a givin situation,, Apes that are still apes obviously have not changed much in MODERN human time simply because they have little reason to, they are best suited for survival. Just because something does not happen over night right infront of our eyes does not mean it does not happen,, and thats the most annoying thing about the stupidity, and nievity of humans If you have to go by judaisum, the old testimates state that the world was created and destroyed thousands of times before this current age Could perhaps people not be so sheltered and think... perhaps god was playing with ideas before he settled on this one? but then again... humans are the the youngest of the homined family,, other species that died thousands and thousands of years ago lived longer than we have.. our genetic parent, gantoris had a short life, living only 40,000 years....yet humans are only 25,000 SO as I said,, perhaps god is still perfecting things,, and the ability to evolve is a creation of a god to better help us survive... he would have that power.. saying he could not limits his ability and if hes so powerful, then how could you ever say it CAN'T Valid, however I feel you, and many others. Have evolution confused with adaptation. However, the other stuff you mentioned I can prove with offical science that the truth of the matter is dogs have always been dogs, as man has always been man. If you wish I can show you the link. Adaptation is the means by which evolution is pushed along. An animal adapts to an environment and its DNA changes. That it adapts to something else, again and again until it is completely different to what it started as and can be said to have evolved. And I think your second point is a little short-sighted. |
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Post by bruno on Nov 1, 2005 0:04:45 GMT
Can't we all agree we belive in karama?
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Post by Kentos Fey’lya / Adamis on Nov 1, 2005 0:06:06 GMT
Can't we all agree we belive in karama? No. |
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Post by Triune on Nov 1, 2005 0:15:02 GMT
Firstly, my religious views are my own. I do not expect nor even want anyone to agree with me on them, why? because they're mine. They concern my spirit/soul/shakra/Chi/Maat/lifeforce not yours. Religion in my view is a personal matter between you and the great almighty whatever you might or might not call him/her/it. No matter if you commune in a congragation or in solitude it is still personal. Whether you believe in the Bible, the Koran, the Torra (Yes I know I spelled that wrong I'm just not going to take the time to look it up) The Do-Waat, the Tao or nothing at all we are all intelligent enough to gather from any one of these sources what to do and what not to do. We know what is right and what is wrong in our own hearts whether we admit it to ourselves or not and therein lies our most harsh judge, one that knows every deed, every thought every ill wish... Ourselves. Thus be you a good Catholic girl or an Athiest boy We must all stand before that Judge, face what wrongs we have done in this world and pay for them.
Two bits of information however I must impart...
The head of the Anglican church in the late 90s actually said in a news article that Hell was a concept devised during the dark ages to keep people fearful and under the control of the church. Right there he just did himself outta a job. I mean if you're whole business is 'showing the way away from hell' and hell doesn't exist according to this guy then why do we need to be shown away from it???
Using Science to prove that Scientific Theory is flawed ultimately disproves your own Theory.
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Post by Kentos Fey’lya / Adamis on Nov 1, 2005 0:27:29 GMT
Firstly, my religious views are my own. I do not expect nor even want anyone to agree with me on them, why? because they're mine. They concern my spirit/soul/shakra/Chi/Maat/lifeforce not yours. Religion in my view is a personal matter between you and the great almighty whatever you might or might not call him/her/it. No matter if you commune in a congragation or in solitude it is still personal. Whether you believe in the Bible, the Koran, the Torra (Yes I know I spelled that wrong I'm just not going to take the time to look it up) The Do-Waat, the Tao or nothing at all we are all intelligent enough to gather from any one of these sources what to do and what not to do. We know what is right and what is wrong in our own hearts whether we admit it to ourselves or not and therein lies our most harsh judge, one that knows every deed, every thought every ill wish... Ourselves. Thus be you a good Catholic girl or an Athiest boy We must all stand before that Judge, face what wrongs we have done in this world and pay for them. Two bits of information however I must impart... The head of the Anglican church in the late 90s actually said in a news article that Hell was a concept devised during the dark ages to keep people fearful and under the control of the church. Right there he just did himself outta a job. I mean if you're whole business is 'showing the way away from hell' and hell doesn't exist according to this guy then why do we need to be shown away from it??? Using Science to prove that Scientific Theory is flawed ultimately disproves your own Theory. How is it that you always know the right words to say in the right order to make everything seem clearer? |
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