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Post by Dalharil EbonClaw on May 16, 2005 7:37:21 GMT
again I was reading alot and noticed something...
Some of the sith ,, or I should say former sith have NO clue about what the REAL SITH VALUES ARE,, and seem to ONLY know about the trendy idea...
Example....Hawkens letter to viea.....
He claimed she showed respect blah blah blah....And claimed she was this and that
Okay.....there are in truth nearly two hundred people who are associated with the ebonclaw name....IF Lirreka called for a grave claim ALL of them would come JUST to claim that debt.....
The sith would be utterly wiped out...that is a FACT
SO.. she was looking out for the sith, as well as using it as an excuse to rub it into Lirrekas face that they took such an important planet...
I see her as a very very skilled true leader, and she follows the TRUE PATTERN of dark lords, quiet under the table manuvers and plots that only become obvious when it's too late,,,,
in my oppinion anyone who thinks she is screwing up obviously know nothing about the way the real sith work....
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Post by Rayken/Hk-62 on May 16, 2005 7:41:04 GMT
Adena is doing good but she should teach her sith not to use anger too much or they might do something stupid *cough* hawken *cough* anger is good well the sith seem to think so but some really have so much anger it clears away tactics and simple knowledge
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Post by Rayken/Hk-62 on May 16, 2005 7:42:14 GMT
again I was reading alot and noticed something... Some of the sith ,, or I should say former sith have NO clue about what the REAL SITH VALUES ARE,, and seem to ONLY know about the trendy idea... Example....Hawkens letter to viea..... He claimed she showed respect blah blah blah....And claimed she was this and that Okay.....there are in truth nearly two hundred people who are associated with the ebonclaw name....IF Lirreka called for a grave claim ALL of them would come JUST to claim that debt..... The sith would be utterly wiped out...that is a FACT SO.. she was looking out for the sith, as well as using it as an excuse to rub it into Lirrekas face that they took such an important planet... I see her as a very very skilled true leader, and she follows the TRUE PATTERN of dark lords, quiet under the table manuvers and plots that only become obvious when it's too late,,,, in my oppinion anyone who thinks she is screwing up obviously know nothing about the way the real sith work.... /\ l l This person gets it
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Post by T3h Blank on May 16, 2005 7:46:10 GMT
Think of it this way, Hawken for one is rather straight forward in his mindset and for another I don't know much about the Ebonclawians (Can't think of name on spot) had that ideal, any Sith Lord would have been screwed if they didn't know about their ideals and what would have happened. (Nor have they seen it happen, but Adnea explained it to the letter and one should have backed off but he needs to see to believe also.)
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Post by Lady Zahra/Jules on May 16, 2005 7:48:39 GMT
OK......here is my 2 cents for what they are worth. Adena truly is doing the best job I have seen. I've watched her in the Sith Forum as she teaches these people. The SW games show no cunning minus Kreia..lol...about how to work in the dark and show CUNNING. If people want to just kill kill then be a bounty hunter. That is all they do. Now, if you want to play with minds and cause more damage and cut losses, you do things the way Adena is doing. PLUS, running in blindly with hate is powerful, yes...but to deceive and twist minds....make them doubt and falter then take them out....oooh that is pure evil. Palpy never just came out and said kill all the Jedi while he was building the Sith up and taking control of the Republic to form the Empire. No, carefully he did it to where the trap sprung too late on the unknowing Jedi. Maul didn't act out in stupidity.....Vader never struck out in stupidity....I think she's doing a great job and if the sith listen to her, they will be truly unstoppable (to a degree...gotta have Jedi to have a board but the Jedi could be crippled badly...close to that now) and play with sooo many minds and mess with the Jedi that it will be so much more fun to do. I say GO ADENA! Look at how many have already flocked to her. She's doing a great job!
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Post by T3h Blank on May 16, 2005 7:53:26 GMT
Smart ass comment: And look at how they ran away from her ;D
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Post by Lady Zahra/Jules on May 16, 2005 7:54:26 GMT
HERE's some history of the Ebonclaws. There are sooooo many that if Lirr asked them to come, they would flood this board and outnumber all sith and Jedi here. It would be mass suicide. Adena offered to give only the SKULLS back of the fallen dead to prevent slaughter of the same galaxy she is trying to get the Sith to control. Stupid? NO. She is preserving the exact thing she wants. PLUS, the Force most of the time slips off of the Danthiri, so using it against them wouldn't be beneficial. It would be suicide. She's is wise. The only Danthiri that are a threat are the ones that Lirr has brought over....force her to flee back home is the most strategic and wisest thing to do.
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Post by Lady Zahra/Jules on May 16, 2005 7:56:30 GMT
Only 1 ran....Hawken. Sever was killed.
ALSO, have you seen her plans and how flawless they were enacted against the Danthiri? Plus, she has much much more up her sleeves and she thinks everything through way ahead. She's a damn good schemer......the Republic is in for it.
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Post by The Ghost of J3Carlilse on May 16, 2005 7:58:26 GMT
I dont know adenas dealings as of late, and so therefor I do not know if she is a good dark lord or not. However I do know that the best of Sith can not rely only on their saber and that of their comrades, I say this because that is but a handful of sabers against at least a third of the galaxy all at once. subterfuge and alliances must be formed in order for their own hands visably clean so that they can one day rise to power
I will end my rambling with this
There once were no bigger fish in the pond, only those that learned how to feed on the already hurt and beaten grew to know domance over all the other fish.
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Post by T3h Blank on May 16, 2005 8:01:40 GMT
Sever was killed yes, but first he did manage to run for a few days he also did stay alive. Plans are extensive, yes, but not all plans account for everything. (Even if they say they do) Although, Adeana is a great D/L, the first I've seen rise to power that used her mind bwha (Woot ;D Oh yes, I DO know of psychological warfare, think of Rael)
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Post by Triune on May 16, 2005 8:08:10 GMT
Personally I think Adena is doing a very good (And has a very hard) Job organizing and unifying the Sith. The past Dark Lords drove the Sith into Ruination because they thought that Power and Might are the same thing. They were wrong. Might, strength of arm, whatever you call it can only take you so far. It will eventually run into something just as strong and what have you then? The immovable object and the unstoppable force is a paradox. Put simply Might CAN'T win. Smarts, wiles, guile, cunning, deviousness these are all things that when Might runs out you need and the prior Dark Lords didn't have any of them. The first few pages of Sun Tzu's 'Art of War' will tell you that Adena is using it as a guide line. Palpatine rose through the senate not because he brutally killed anyone in his path HELL no. He used honeyed words and a pleasent smile to convince EVERYONE he was harmless and impartial. Now if he'd used ANY of the tactics espoused by many of the past Dark Lords and the other Lords such as Hawken and others (I'm not singling him out here) Palpatine woulda been shot down and there'd been NO six episodes. A big tall nasty giant tearing down your town is bad but the devious smiling snake oil salesman that told this giant where to go is worse. Can someone who is strong be forced into the darkside? again HELL no, that's why it's called 'seduced' by the Darkside. And 'Seduced' does not mean 'get a bigger hammer'. Okay I'm done now but last words Adena is doing a good job of following this tactic. Also I can see why Darth Bane imposed the rule "One Dark Lord and one Apprentice ONLY" He musta had some of these Sith Lords running around.
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Post by Halan on May 16, 2005 9:27:41 GMT
I think every sith neds a good strong slap across the face, how many times do they have to have untill they relise that haveing a meathead for a dark lord will not work, The sith on this forum have in the past just attackked and attacked and look where it has got them, they are crippled with little to no resources only by someone like adena who thinks things though uses he head and generally manipulates to get what she wants will the sith return to the way they should be a large military force that is only use if true sith values fail to work.
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Post by T3h Blank on May 16, 2005 9:38:31 GMT
The thing is about the Sith, they are like Ants, no matter how hard you try you cannot get rid of them cause they will always come back somehow.
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Post by Jetzt on May 16, 2005 10:05:52 GMT
I wouldnt go as far as saying she is a spitting image of Palpy... Palpy is a true God and the most powerful Sith of all time.
...but yes she does act with true manipulation and is a great dark lord.
Remember, physical wounds heal with time.... Emotional and mental scars can plague a life for eternity.
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Post by T3h Blank on May 16, 2005 10:10:56 GMT
And physical wounds can emotional/mental scars to, but that depends on the person
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