Peter Jackson should have directed EP3

[Brandon Rhea]

sevordo said:

Where is this coming from though...them being biased? Is it that they didn't get as many oscars as you reckon it should of?

It would do some good for everyone to look around the SW Community more to see where this is from:

1. "Yeah, whatever" Oscars for EpV and EpVI, two of the best movies...well...ever...
2. Terrible reviews, much worse than deserved
3. Personal attacks against Lucas himself
4. Basically not recognizing the greatest motion picture Saga ever

It all started after EpIV when Lucas said "I'm doing this myself". Lucas wanted to add "Episode V" onto just that and the academy fined him and Irvin Kershner. Then, it became worse when Lucas pulled out of the Directors Guild, the Screenwriters Guild and the Motion Picture Association. They were pricks to him, but they feel that Lucas did it because he feels he is better than them. No, he admits that he's the King of Wooden Dialouge. Lucas admits his faults, but the Academy pretends he doesn't and then uses personal attacks against him. It's died down after they realized how good EpIII was, but it would probably start up again someday.

[Halan]

If thats true than why did the Afi (many of whom are on the oscar committee) just give him a life time achievement award..I think he is one of only 10 people to every get one...

[Brandon Rhea]

sevordo said:

If thats true than why did the Afi (many of whom are on the oscar committee) just give him a life time achievement award..I think he is one of only 10 people to every get one...

Because he finally completed the Star Wars Saga and the academy knows that, whether they like it or not, he deserves that. Will they give him oscars? No. Will they attack him? Yes.

[Sabre]

That’s an interesting point, Peter Jackson is a great director, possibly better than Lucas, though they really are just different. I don’t think he should of directed Ep. III for 2 reasons. The first is that Lucas designed Star Wars, he knows what the galaxy is like and the ins and outs of everything, Jackson simply doesn’t. The second is that Lucas did the other 5, for Jackson to do the last one would ruin the fluidity of the story, it would just be so different from the others. I will always love Lord of the Rings more than Star Wars, not necessarily the movies, but LotR just has so much more depth as a story in my opinion.

[Brandon Rhea]

sabre said:

That’s an interesting point, Peter Jackson is a great director, possibly better than Lucas, though they really are just different. I don’t think he should of directed Ep. III for 2 reasons. The first is that Lucas designed Star Wars, he knows what the galaxy is like and the ins and outs of everything, Jackson simply doesn’t. The second is that Lucas did the other 5, for Jackson to do the last one would ruin the fluidity of the story, it would just be so different from the others. I will always love Lord of the Rings more than Star Wars, not necessarily the movies, but LotR just has so much more depth as a story in my opinion.

Lucas didn't direct EpV or EpVI. He was the executive producer and writer (well, for EpV he wrote the story. EpVI he co-wrote the screenplay and he wrote the story).

[Sabre]

jedimasterbac said:

sabre said:

That’s an interesting point, Peter Jackson is a great director, possibly better than Lucas, though they really are just different. I don’t think he should of directed Ep. III for 2 reasons. The first is that Lucas designed Star Wars, he knows what the galaxy is like and the ins and outs of everything, Jackson simply doesn’t. The second is that Lucas did the other 5, for Jackson to do the last one would ruin the fluidity of the story, it would just be so different from the others. I will always love Lord of the Rings more than Star Wars, not necessarily the movies, but LotR just has so much more depth as a story in my opinion.

Lucas didn't direct EpV or EpVI. He was the executive producer and writer (well, for EpV he wrote the story. EpVI he co-wrote the screenplay and he wrote the story).

Interesting, still though he’s worked on all the films.

[Brandon Rhea]

sabre said:

jedimasterbac said:

Lucas didn't direct EpV or EpVI. He was the executive producer and writer (well, for EpV he wrote the story. EpVI he co-wrote the screenplay and he wrote the story).

Interesting, still though he’s worked on all the films.

Indeed, and many cast and crew from EpVI said that Marquand (the director) sucked so badly at directing Lucas did most of it. So, I think if enough cast members and crew members came out and said that Lucas directed the majority of the film that I would have no problem if the end credits of the film said "Directed by GEORGE LUCAS".

[Karmien Starkiller]

darthsin2 said:

Peter Jackson is the kind of director George Lucas should have been. Lucas is a great writer and has imaginative ideas, but as a director, he's trash. I think that he has trouble conveying what's in his head to the screen. But Peter Jackson, well...He's simply amazing. He knows exactly how to tell a story and exactly how it should work out onscreen for maximum effects. I believe that he is one of the only director that can have produce epic films like Lord of the Rings. George Lucas would surely have completely destroyed Tolkien's epic and it would have taken 6 years to see the whole damn thing because everyone knows that it takes 3 years to complete a movie right?

I don't want to start a fight but I thought Jackson was a bad director. He cut out a ton of the best Lord of the rings scenes and he does has some good ideas but he doesnt think them through. At the last movie he was going to have Aragon fight Saroun reincarnated insted of that cave troll. It wouldnt of made any sense.

[Sabre]

sithboy7 said:

darthsin2 said:

Peter Jackson is the kind of director George Lucas should have been. Lucas is a great writer and has imaginative ideas, but as a director, he's trash. I think that he has trouble conveying what's in his head to the screen. But Peter Jackson, well...He's simply amazing. He knows exactly how to tell a story and exactly how it should work out onscreen for maximum effects. I believe that he is one of the only director that can have produce epic films like Lord of the Rings. George Lucas would surely have completely destroyed Tolkien's epic and it would have taken 6 years to see the whole damn thing because everyone knows that it takes 3 years to complete a movie right?

I don't want to start a fight but I thought Jackson was a bad director. He cut out a ton of the best Lord of the rings scenes and he does has some good ideas but he doesnt think them through. At the last movie he was going to have Aragon fight Saroun reincarnated insted of that cave troll. It wouldnt of made any sense.

Well it’s slightly naive to say he’s a bad director. There was no way he could of kept every single bit of the books in there, and besides he didn’t actually put it in, it was an idea in the making but he came to the same conclusion you apparently have. I should also remind you he didn’t design the script and scenes, he was overseeing it, but others decided mostly what was in the movie.

[Lady Zahra/Jules]

Let me remind you too that overall, Jackson is just a director. Lucas created this whole universe and knew how things needed to be told, etc. He had a whole lot more vision, where Jackson relied upon one of Tolkien's relatives to help set up LOTR according to the books. In my mind's eye you can't compare the two. They are way way too different. Besides, if you notice Jackson goes after the big name things to direct too. LOTR has been a huge hit for years and years.....now he's done King Kong. Star Wars was nothing when Lucas brought it about. Some of your excitement for the new series is spoiled because of how many special effects we're exposed to now and in general, Jedi, Sith, etc aren't all that new to us. We've had it around for ages.

Oh how I want to go on, but I'll stop.

[Karmien Starkiller]

sabre said:

sithboy7 said:

I don't want to start a fight but I thought Jackson was a bad director. He cut out a ton of the best Lord of the rings scenes and he does has some good ideas but he doesnt think them through. At the last movie he was going to have Aragon fight Saroun reincarnated insted of that cave troll. It wouldnt of made any sense.

Well it’s slightly naive to say he’s a bad director. There was no way he could of kept every single bit of the books in there, and besides he didn’t actually put it in, it was an idea in the making but he came to the same conclusion you apparently have. I should also remind you he didn’t design the script and scenes, he was overseeing it, but others decided mostly what was in the movie.

I don't really think he was bad, just not asgoof as lucas.