"Moral Decline"

[Kentos Fey’lya / Adamis]

Well who do you think is really responsible for this moral decline that fanatic priests are always talking about and blaming on "God-less heretics"?

Personally I say the Baby-boomers. I mean if you think about it the real decline has come along ever since they hit the teenagers. Note: for those that don't know Baby-boomers are the children born from 1945 until 1950 (Roughly) who were fathered by the returning men from WW2.

[The Pike]

Well I wold love to sya Satan...but all of those....where is the All of those option?

[Lady Zahra/Jules]

Since there is no other option, I will just post it here. A steady decline has been happening for decades. Something I would ask of you is what do you mean when you say moral decline? What is wrong and right or what people believe in?

Our parents grew up in a different time and different circumstances. Religion was almost THE thing back then. As time as gone on, parents aren't home to teach their children as they used to and instill in them certain things or encourage them toward a certain way of thinking or set of morals. Now is it completely the fault of parents, no, I'm not saying that. Each person has a free will and can decide what is wrong and right for themselves. Also, as technology has increased and persons seek to obtain items, they are more concerned with objects and possessions than focusing on what is wrong and right.

Think about this. We have persons who are on welfare that use that money to support their families while others use that money and spend it on several lottery tickets. It all amounts to greed instead of what is right. It is a process of thinking that has developed over the years. Persons want a quick fix and don't want to work for anything any longer. We all are a more lazy society and generation because of these very things. So instead of following the laws, others are drawn by greed to do illegal acts....companies imbezzeling money, persons stealing, drugs dealing and usage for that short term feel good effect and money, etc.

The focus has shifted from that on family and religion to possessions and greed.

[T3h Blank]

Ahhh good ol' greed, the way of life and the way of suffering.

Did you know that there are more depressed people in America than there is in Africa?

I would have to agree with Selae ;D

[Lady Zahra/Jules]

Don't get me started on depression......lol

[Adena]

in the Americas....Hippies


honestly it got really bad once they started breeding
over bearing parents in the 40's and 50's * who were too nieve in my oppinion*

Once THEY became parents they refused to dicipline as there parents did, they wanted to be " buddies" and not parents

and then MY generation as parents are really no differant, or dont really care as much





I also want to put out that in my worlds travels I see alot of differances in where this can be seen mainly larger towns,, and mainly the US, UK, Germany have the most noticable



but other than that here is a suprise



this is the most peaceful time in all of human history so far, it only seems bad because of the advent of media, and instant world wide communication... had they had the internet a few hundred years ago you'd think the day and age WE live in was like disneyland

[Triune]

Well, since this is an open question/poll I feel no need to hedge my response. None of those choices are responsible for Moral Decline in family values. They serve as excuses, scapegoats and crutches to help make everyone feel better now that a 'cause' has been pointed out.

Moral Decline, what a perfectly odious conceit. Morality in and of itself is a leperous growth on the neck of humanity through which the Just and the Fair are villified, dehumanized and outright killed. Once it was socially accepted to own slaves. Moral men and women OWNED another human being and it was okay. It was once morally wrong for people of different races to wed. Now it's okay. Once it was moral heresy to even suggest that we as humans may have evolved from lower lifeforms THEN it became an equal heresy to suggest otherwise. Now did the morality change or was it the Social concept of it? Society defines what is moral and what is not. As Society evolves so too does that Moral code.

I am an Ethical person, Ethics and Morality seem at first to be the same thing when infact there is a discreet and important difference betweent the two. As I've stated above Morality is defined by the Group where as Ethics are defined by the individual. I will not kill another human being unless I am provided with no other method to preserve my own life or the lives of those I love. I do this not because morality says it but because it goes against my Ethics. I will always support the Ethical over the Moral and the Wise over the Intelligent.

Family Values have declined due to one overriding factor; the fact that both parents (if there are two in the household that is) work. When I was growing up everytime I came home from school my Mother was there. She saw that I did my homework, she saw I had a warm supper to eat and she provided guidance and boundaries for my outside of school time. Through this I learned and defined my personal ethics and values. How can anyone expect Children to turn out any other way than they have without this presence? Now I realize that in some households having a parent there just isn't feasible but that doesn't mean there has to be a void in which the child is dumped and HOPE they learn the right way to grow up. Relatives, Good friends and neighbors even teachers can fill this void if the Parent tries to find them.

Another factor is the use of Credit in lieu of actually HAVING the money! Joy oh Joy Let's get our credit card and pay a dollar twenty-five for the privelige of spending a dollar now! Oh my GAWD I just can't WAIT to have the money in my hand to buy _______!!!! This attitude is what spirals individuals and families into the need of more and more money to buy less and less.
I don't have a Credit Card and if I can manage it I'll never have one. If I don't have the money to buy something then I'll Save for it (Yes 'Save' I know that word is Alien to most people today).

Morality and Family Values are often 'hot button' issues used by Politicians and would-be leaders to stir up both argument and sow the seeds of 'quick fix' solutions. There isn't one. The decline of Values took decades to happen and it will take an equal amount of time and honest-to-god EFFORT on the part of people everywhere to turn it around. Personally I don't think it'll happen but then again I'm a cynic and believe the baser lusts of humanity will always win out over its virtues and Effort is as alien a concept to the modern mindset as is the word Sennight to this Digital age.

As always these are my opinions and if they offend, oh well I'm not gonna lose sleep over it. Last time I looked having differing opinions does not invoke cause to hate one another.

[Adena]

yup, like I said, Hippies

[Lu Kane]

i have no religion, maybe it's my fault

[Sabre]

I did a paper on this back in secondary school. I think I concluded that there was no one religious group or peoples responsible for it; in fact it appears that everyone is to blame. In 1864 someone practicing homosexuality would have been hung, nowadays it is completely accepted. I’m not homophobic, but if one thing has declined so much, then surely other things could have aswell. Look at New Orleans, the minute the authorities are indisposed its anarchy. People don’t respect eachother and society as much as they used too and its our fault for allowing it to happen, or even doing it ourselves. We are accepting the change of the world and the sin that is growing.

[Brandon Rhea]

God damn hippies....

[.:.::Bornor Re'Aden::.:.]

Other religions.

[Pele]

Other religions because, there has been a lot of religous descrimination everywhere making everyone angry.

[Kentos Fey’lya / Adamis]

lirreka said:

Another factor is the use of Credit in lieu of actually HAVING the money! Joy oh Joy Let's get our credit card and pay a dollar twenty-five for the privelige of spending a dollar now! Oh my GAWD I just can't WAIT to have the money in my hand to buy _______!!!! This attitude is what spirals individuals and families into the need of more and more money to buy less and less.
I don't have a Credit Card and if I can manage it I'll never have one. If I don't have the money to buy something then I'll Save for it (Yes 'Save' I know that word is Alien to most people today).

Well my Mum used to have the same view but then someone told her that she was stupid NOT to have a Credit Card. Just hear me out here. Ok so you must remember that this was back in the days when you had to pay off you credit card every 2 months, but if you use a credit card BUT make sure you can pay it off at the end of the month or 2 months (as in you already have the money) then you can leave that money in a savings account to gain interest and then use the money you would have used anyway to pay off the credit card. This way you are better off with the amount of interest that you earned for that month/2 months and now that extra money will earn more through even more interest. This is also the best way to get your credit card limit pushed up. If you pay off the card at the end of every month then the bank is not making moeny off of your card so they try and tempt you to spend more than you can pay back so they increase and increase and increase your limit. My parents have like a $10,000 limit or something on there cards.

[uther]

I put down baby boomers just for the reason is their draining my generation social security.