Devlen Del-Arshu
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Post by Devlen Del-Arshu on Sept 18, 2005 8:40:48 GMT
Starship designs have gone out the window. People arent regarding size, cost, time to build, or the space required for components on a ship of a certain size, and I believe we need a moderator to watch over this sort of stuff specifically. This moderator would also approve any designs up for sale in the shops section before they are added.
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Post by Adena on Sept 18, 2005 17:35:20 GMT
Starship designs have gone out the window. People arent regarding size, cost, time to build, or the space required for components on a ship of a certain size, and I believe we need a moderator to watch over this sort of stuff specifically. This moderator would also approve any designs up for sale in the shops section before they are added. You got a great point, I noticed that too, Alright a single Sith Destroyer, and Republic cruiser take about a year to build each, and are typically about as big as things get, though there may be a new line of things slightly larger starting to roll out a thing deathstar size would take 20 years to build ONE, and would cost more money than ANY one group has now, so there is a big nono on things that large Hyperspace is still sorta a new thing, and X2 is as fast as they go.. my main focus has not always been on the major technical side, but thats my input for now
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Post by Rayken/Hk-62 on Sept 18, 2005 18:00:19 GMT
though this should be in combination with the rp time rule
(example: 1 day in rl is like i dunno 10 days in rp time)
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Post by Shara on Sept 18, 2005 19:08:57 GMT
I agree.... having big ships is pointless anyway, unless you're an army leader.... and having a lot of ships. Why on earth a 'normal' character would want more than one ship is well beyond me... where would you put 'em?
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Post by Devlen Del-Arshu on Sept 18, 2005 22:51:16 GMT
Most fleets involve way too many larger ship at the moment. Considering the tol the war is taking on both sides, wouldn't you be wanting to churn out more smaller ships than one big one? Light cruisers, i would think, would be the the more mainstream style at the moment, along with hyperdrive-equipped fighters and bombers for quick strikes (maybe the B-Wing style bombers seen in the space battle of KOTOR?). Blockade runners and gunboats would be the major part of larger fleets nowadays.
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Post by Jedi Master Kael Caivera on Sept 18, 2005 23:19:04 GMT
I agree totally. There are low level sith that seemingly have more ships than I do... Granted I control the Droma Armada, I dont OWN them. The only ship I own is the Outrider.
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Post by Devlen Del-Arshu on Sept 18, 2005 23:21:13 GMT
im gonna sell my three capital ships to the Republic, get me some nice creditos...then buy me a single cruiser and crew.
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Post by Rayken/Hk-62 on Sept 19, 2005 15:59:31 GMT
Muahaha everything that i have i own
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Post by Lu Kane on Sept 20, 2005 2:17:26 GMT
i have one clawcraft starfighter and thats it
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Post by Bralor on Sept 20, 2005 2:44:09 GMT
For some people I don't think this rule would really matter on though like I have basically a sword and blaster I have to borrow a ship from someone which is sad but at least it's reasonable.
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Post by Lu Kane on Sept 20, 2005 2:46:04 GMT
i'll NEVER let you borrow my ship kex
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Post by Sabre on Sept 20, 2005 18:48:42 GMT
It’s a very controversial subject, there’s no definite about it. Some factions have the resources to build ships fast, not extremely fast but relatively. I find it hard to believe that anyone can own a fleet unless they have a large area of land that belongs to them; how would you build it? The problem is, bounties are becoming out of control, all these tiny characters are gaining millions and buying all these huge fleets and it makes no damn sense. And why the hell would every member of a faction have a fleet, lets look at the Sith. By no fault of Adena or any other high ranking Sith all these little apprentices and Knight have giant troop counts. I would think that a faction would have a giant army and it would be under different peoples control on different missions. That’s what I’m doing with the Republic, one army and everybody uses that.
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Post by Adena on Sept 20, 2005 19:40:00 GMT
totaly right,, And the Way the Sith are:
We own/control about 60% to 70%of the main resources for building such massive fleets currently, though only about 50% are used the rest are focused on basic things like building walls for habitats and such, the bulk of the Sith Navy is intrusted to those of the high court,, like Kit and his Droma sector armada..that is his command, however he may choose to assign a number of captians to break it down into groups, one captian, or general per fleet
I for the most part broke the Sith into two factions,,the Sith military, which is not always force users, but the common folk and students who participate in war efforts and get military training,, then there is the Sith that are strictly force users, members of the Sith Faith, they under no means would have a massive military force.
Now, as for the cost of ships.. A brand new corvette sized ship runs about 90,000 credits new, bigger things like a sith destroyer run about 200, to 300,000 construct, but about 1,000,000 or more to buy.. and thats about as big as you can normally get
Then lets factor in other costs,, you need to pay for repairs * which is what MOST of our facilities do anymore is repair rather than build*
after repairs you need to factor in Feeding the crew, which can be upwards of 200, to 60,000 people just to make the ship work
after feeding you need to pay for medical supplies, and the likes, then paying for the resources to train new people for the ships, and fighters,
so roughly gathered a ship , a single Sith destroyer would cost a private owner roughly 2, to 3 billion credits a YEAR just to opperate..
and there are very very very few formatted factions who could do that,
I factor those into my plans, hence why Vieas very first targets were strictly selected because they generated a constant flow of money
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Post by Devlen Del-Arshu on Sept 21, 2005 11:55:15 GMT
Which bounty hunter has a fleet? Aren't Bounty hunters supposed to be shadey, distant sorts of people? I'm going for a little snoop around people's profiles...
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Post by Rayken/Hk-62 on Sept 21, 2005 14:28:02 GMT
totaly right,, And the Way the Sith are: We own/control about 60% to 70%of the main resources for building such massive fleets currently, though only about 50% are used the rest are focused on basic things like building walls for habitats and such, the bulk of the Sith Navy is intrusted to those of the high court,, like Kit and his Droma sector armada..that is his command, however he may choose to assign a number of captians to break it down into groups, one captian, or general per fleet I for the most part broke the Sith into two factions,,the Sith military, which is not always force users, but the common folk and students who participate in war efforts and get military training,, then there is the Sith that are strictly force users, members of the Sith Faith, they under no means would have a massive military force. Now, as for the cost of ships.. A brand new corvette sized ship runs about 90,000 credits new, bigger things like a sith destroyer run about 200, to 300,000 construct, but about 1,000,000 or more to buy.. and thats about as big as you can normally get Then lets factor in other costs,, you need to pay for repairs * which is what MOST of our facilities do anymore is repair rather than build* after repairs you need to factor in Feeding the crew, which can be upwards of 200, to 60,000 people just to make the ship work after feeding you need to pay for medical supplies, and the likes, then paying for the resources to train new people for the ships, and fighters, so roughly gathered a ship , a single Sith destroyer would cost a private owner roughly 2, to 3 billion credits a YEAR just to opperate.. and there are very very very few formatted factions who could do that, I factor those into my plans, hence why Vieas very first targets were strictly selected because they generated a constant flow of money i do that almost the same. why do you think i took hypori? its rich in rescourses (5-10% total of all my planets income) the reason i took telos is there are alot of people that are there and need a job. Thats the top of my head tho. 50% of my rescourses are my own the other 50% (hydian way wich i give protection houses and that sorta thing. they also supply alot of man troops and crew)
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